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Men are handicapped when it comes to arguing with women, because we have an instinctive need to make sense.

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Cis white Goat
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Too confronting Sara? 😊
Sarafina
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Hm... Am I not making sense to you most of the times?
Cis white Goat
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We havent really argued yet did we?
Sarafina
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True. What would you like to argue about with me?
Cis white Goat
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Nothing. I'm perfectly fine without arguing!
Sarafina
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Me too. But I would also say that I do have some sense most of the time. Not always.
Cis white Goat
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The 'average' woman behaves like 7 of 9 in an argument. 😁
Sarafina
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Oh. That's a bit mean. 7 is a very intelligent woman. She's just very emotional and gets easily upset if people can't follow her thoughts and beliefs....
Sarafina
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It was all about you either agree with me or I yell and you.
Sarafina
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Have you read the profile of TRJ? He's saying exactly what I just wrote.
Cis white Goat
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I agree with you.
Sarafina
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This is going to be difficult. *sigh*
Cis white Goat
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No seriously, I agree with what you said
Sarafina
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We're both just too clever 😂😂😂.
Steph
Goat. Sounds like you aren't hanging around the right people. Perhaps you're not choosing your friends well?
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Owen Meany
Steph -- I believe your comment makes logical sense. How could that possibly be? 😈
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Cis white Goat
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I have very nice friends thank you very much 😌
Nina One
I've done lots of couple counseling. The heterosexual couples are usually speaking on quite different levels. Men are talking facts and logic, and are oblivious to feelings, or are strenuously avoiding them. (Except anger; they've got that one down.) The women are trying to convey their own feelings and understand their partners, and are feeling so unloved and unheard that they consider logical argument to be utterly beside the point. Both feelings and facts are valid. The trick is not to try to talk about them both at the same time.
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Cain
I love that explaination so much.
Nina One
Thank you. Why?
Cain
Nina One, because it makes sense :p
Nina One
Well, that stopped the conversation! ;-)
Owen Meany
Nina One, it made too much sense and OP can't process that from a woman. 😈
Nina One
OwenMeany, 😂 I confess that my first reaction to the OP was negative. But then I realized that the apparent sexism was only the usual male/female divergence in relationship talk.
Sarafina
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What if OP was just teasing?
Cis white Goat
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I was teasing AND sleeping etc. 😊
Sarafina
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I know Mister Goat. It surprises me that some people refuse to acknowledge the wit and turn funny cards into a court case.
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Sarafina
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But than again they might not know you...
Owen Meany
What if we were just teasing?
Nina One
I wasn't.
Nina One
Sarafina, I acknowledge that I tend to take this kind of humour seriously, and perhaps that's out of line. But humour, however lightly meant, does indicate popular beliefs. Otherwise it wouldn't be funny. These kinds of jokes are steeped in sexual politics, and are far from innocent; they enforce negative stereotypes and screw up communication.
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Cis white Goat
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In short, you have no sense of humor.
Nina One
Mr. Goat, not that kind, anyway.
Cis white Goat
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You take life way too seriously.
Nina One
But I'm cute when I'm serious.
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Cis white Goat
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I'm sure you are, too bad you cant tell on plag 😊
Beeler
Nina One, have you read Freud's writings regarding humor? A bit dry, but very curious
Nina One
Beeler, I may have, forty years ago. He's not my favourite.
Beeler
Nina One, mine either. I happened to like his humor stuff though.
The Real Jesus 🎺
Freud was a penis obsessed nutbag.
👈MentalProlapse👉 ❓
The Real Jesus, agreed he saw nothing to human expireince than sexuality. and every nail was hammered in with a phallus.
Steph
Goat, I was teasing too. Whilst using logic. ;)
Steph
Mental: "hammered in with a phallus" 😂
Steph
Nina, I don't envy you your job, because I think it's given you a terrible bias. I was married to someone who spent two decades walking around whining about hurt feelings and not being loved. It gets annoying. He did the same thing with his first wife for the decade prior. Wish I'd known.
👈MentalProlapse👉 ❓
Steph, people who cling to emotions never seem to see past them. it's almost as if they use it as excuse at times.
Steph
Sure, it might have been just a reason to tell me I was shit, Mental, but he does it to his kids, too. Someone else's self-esteem is not my problem. That's why they call it "self" esteem.
👈MentalProlapse👉 ❓
Steph, iam not makeing excuses for him. in fact sound like you should of given him a fucking slap. weak people always look for someone to justify there own shit so they dont have to face it. Personal responsibility is something that has been lost in our libertys.there are things out of our control but victims pay the price eventually.
Markus Prime
Nina One, thanks for saying that. I'd have said something related, but you said it much better. And I'd have added that most women are perfectly capable of talking rationally for much of the time, just as most men have some capacity for processing emotions, at least for much of the time. We speak different languages, but we still have some understanding of one another.
Steph
Mental I know you weren't. I just can't understand a person who makes someone else at fault for his or her own feelings. I cannot make you feel badly about yourself. Only you can do that. I don't take bullshit compliments from people either. I know when I look like shit, so telling me I don't is only going to make me think you're stupid or a liar. So why people ask someone else how they look is beyond me. If you're asking me about your choice of shirt for the occasion? Fine. But there's the mirror, look at it and if you're comfortable with what you see then that's all that counts.
👈MentalProlapse👉 ❓
Steph, some people live of the opinions and feed back of others. they exist only in relation to other people and not independent of them. a merged existence of sorts and trying to use others as an emotional tampon is selfish. It's easyier to let others think for us. god knows theres a sence of freedom that comes with submission. but it's a dishonest way to be in my opinion laying everything on someone else rather than takeing it on them selfs what salvation comes from being that way?
Steph
Mental; that's exactly how I think of it. It is selfish to expect someone to prop you up all the time. I can't do it, and I can't be around people who expect it. Because if you ask me what I think, you're going to get my truth about it.
👈MentalProlapse👉 ❓
Steph, and thats the last thing those kinds of people want 😂 hahaha good times.
Beeler
I might throw in that while it seems like we should own our own feelings, it would be amiss to deny that we affect each other. Scientifically they've already proven that observing someone else smile releases all kinds of feel-good hormones and bonding agents. So if you smile at someone, you are responsible, in part, for that feeling. The same thing if you insult someone. But just like some people fall on the "cold" side, others lie on the "wear their heart on their sleeve" side. But, if we consider that we ourselves matter, then it's pretty easy to put your own boundaries in a relationship to keep from constantly propping someone up.
👈MentalProlapse👉 ❓
Beeler, when someone smiles at me it doesn't make me feel any difference. thats just monkey brained stuff. if someones funny witty and intelligent they make me smile.
Nina One
People in close relationships do affect each other, and the interactions can push each one into roles they wouldn't have chosen. For instance, if one partner is more demonstrative than the other (i.e. more huggy), the one who is less so may seem to pull away a bit. The partner may feel a bit rejected, and try again to get close, precipitating another retreat. This can escalate, until one partner sees the other as needy and hysterical, and the other sees their partner as cold and rejecting. Whereas to begin with, they might have been only moderately different and well within the normal range for emotional expression.
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Nina One
Markus Prime, I agree, and thanks.
Steph
Beeler, that's true to an extent. When it turns into one long continuous pout over not having your ego stroked? Not the partner's fault. The minute you ask if you're sexy? You're not sexy.
Beeler
Steph, I was trying to give this some thought. For the continuous pout, that was my statement about respecting yourself and creating a boundary, definitely not the partner's fault. Maybe the last two statement's you were trying to make a parallel metaphor, and I think that works. But if it's asking for validation (assuming occasionally or a healthy amount), and by asking that weakens the partner's view.... Which are you saying?
Steph
Exactly that - asking for constant validation because you only see yourself. When you are so wrapped up in your own reflection that you expect your partner to be nothing but a mirror, you are no longer desirable at all. You have, in fact, become UNdesirable.
Markus Prime
Steph, to be fair, I think there are self-absorbed people of both sexes.
Steph
That's my whole point, Markus.
Nina One
Steph, Marcus, thanks for that balance. What do you think of the interactive nature of roles in relationships that I described above?
ninelives900
If you think this is true, then you haven't met me
Steph
Nina I have to admit, I've had a headache all day and am plaguing to distract myself from it. I have no idea what you're asking? Plain English please?
Nina One
Steph, sorry about the headache. I was referring to my post above, in which I describe behaviour in relationships as an interactive system. Yes, there are extreme personalities who are going to be that way no matter who they're paired with. But for most of us in the normal range, our behaviour is shaped in part by the other person and their reactions. So that someone who is only a bit insecure, in a relationship with someone not very demonstrative, can end up looking very needy indeed.
Steph
Well, I'm decidedly not needy. And I haven't had a lot of people, male or female, tell me that they seek validation and don't get it. I think if you just say what you mean, instead of trying to be coy or get a reaction, life is a lot easier. People who expect someone else to just "get them" are living in a fantasy world. Probably created by fairy tales and movies that tell us there is some "perfect person" (god forbid) out there for each of us.
👈MentalProlapse👉 ❓
Steph, 👏👏👏 you don't tell me there's a problem there isn't one in my eyes. you can't be direct i can't help but ignore you. Got no time for games.
Nina One
Steph, well, of course. But I'm talking about something a bit different. Or rather, I'm trying to put some of the content of this discussion into a wider context, and one that is slightly less judgemental.
Steph
Less judgmental? Say what you mean, mean what you say. What could be simpler?
Nina One
Steph, maybe we could talk about this when you don't have a headache. Human relationships aren't simple, that's all.
Markus Prime
Nina One, I have some thoughts, but they'll need to wait until I get home this evening. Speak later.
jabyl
I never argue with women. I'm too competitive - with women you just can't "win". Even if you win, you just don't really win 😎
Markus Prime
jabyl, that's a bit too much of a generalisation. There are exceptions: you'll have met some on Plague.
Beeler
Steph, I think I get what you're saying. I was thrown by the *minute* in the statement of "the minute you ask if you're sexy...". I've never met someone who didn't need occasional validation, advice, or a comment.
Beeler
Connotations, regional language interpretations, and someone's mood all get thrown into the mix. It helps to be direct, and forgiving. Conversations are dynamic, interactive, and subject to environment. People who are purposely vague... many have their reasons, most people I meet don't do it intentionally. When they do, that's where I'm direct about my personal boundaries.
Steph
Beeler I'm from New York, everything happens in a minute. :)
Steph
Nina, human relationships could be a lot less complex. People make things harder than they are. Honesty is easy. Fear of being judged keeps people from it. When you get to where you don't worry about that? You're home-free.
Markus Prime
Steph, relationships are difficult because people are complex, don't know themselves well, and come with baggage. Everyone we meet reminds us of other people we've known, sometimes for the most spurious reasons. How's your head today, BTW? Better, I hope?
Markus Prime
Nina One, belatedly: yes, I agree with your thesis. And it's not true just in romantic relationships, but more generally. People who feel ignored shout more insistently, become more irritating, and get rejected more assertively. People felt to be less competent get things done for them, and their role as the dependent person is reinforced. The member of a couple who's more empathetic will get the jobs requiring empathy, while the more practical person is in another room, building a cupboard. But it can be positive, too: we can learn from the traits of our partners: not mimicking them or trying to become them, but learning from their example. A little humility and appreciation work wonders.
Markus Prime
Back on the topic of feeling loved: I apologise for the unreadability of this page , but http://marriage.about.com/cs/communicationkeys/a/lovelanguage.htm does hint at the fact that one partner may need to feel love in the way that the other partner doesn't naturally express it. In one couple I knew, she was tactile and wanted to be cuddled and complimented; he was generous and practical, and expressed love by doing and by giving. She, I sense, felt lonely and unloved, and became increasingly demanding -- unreasonably so, in my opinion.
Steph
Markus, good points, but I still hold that if you just TELL someone what you hope for they will be able to either try to do it or they will tell you it's not in their makeup. Then you can stop having that unreasonable expectation. And if you do it early on in the relationship you won't end up with the wrong person. Thinking a person will change is the biggest mistake people make. You either like them "as is" or you should continue looking. So you start a relationship with honesty instead of trying to sell your best self. My head is better, thanks :)
Cis white Goat
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Fully agree Steph.
Markus Prime
Steph, I couldn't agree more: communication is vital. Too many people, I think, expect their romantic partners to read their minds. However, I do think people can change in some respects, if not in others, and, since you'll never find a perfect match in the wild, it's worth taking a little time to find out what can be changed and what can't. I know one woman who refused to marry her boyfriend unless he gave up smoking. They married in 2000 and he's still tobacco-free. I know another couple who had to negotiate about their attitude to money (a more critical area than many people realise) but have arrived at a good way of managing it; whereas some other friends of ours find money a constant irritant, because he wants to save but she always spends, leaving them in serious debt that he can't earn his way out of. Like anything in human relationships, it takes time, it involves risk, and it's never simple.
Tadas
Partner can change if not being forced to. I know I changed some of my bad habits, but only when nothing pressures me. I also pressured to change some habits and was pressured, it never worked. From my experience pressure never works, it always backfires. I think ego comes into play for both sexes. Always.
Markus Prime
Tadas, agreed, ego can make us resist change that we sometimes ought to make.
Cis white Goat
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Changes only go so far, much is ingrained in your character.
Markus Prime
Mr. Goat, yes. The wisdom comes in knowing what can be changed (such as smoking habits) and what can't (loyalty, honesty, neurosis, intelligence, etc.).
Tadas
Disagree about that. Neurosis can be managed at least. Honesty - achievable trait. Intelligence - can be improved.
Markus Prime
Tadas, I see that I veer closer to the 'nature' side of the debate, and you veer closer to the 'nurture' side. I've never seen a stupid person become intelligent, although I've seen plenty of intelligent people doing stupid things. I've never seen a habitually dishonest person become trustworthy. People I knew who were neurotic thirty years ago are still neurotic now, or were neurotic when they died. So my best advice would be too walk away if you see someone stupid, habitually dishonest, or neurotic.
Tadas
Markus Prime, tough life you have there. I've seen opposite results of everything you mentioned. Although I agree that its more of rarity than trend.
Owen Meany
The money issue in a partner relationship is hugely important. If you and your beloved are divergent in your attitude toward money, you're at huge risk for divorce -- and an ugly one. (Not to mention you probably won't be able to afford it.)
Markus Prime
Tadas, there are exceptions to most rules, I agree, but would I bet that some hypothetical girlfriend was one of them? It would depend on how besotted I was, I suppose. 😏
Markus Prime
OwenMeany, too true. I'm grateful that Mrs P and I see eye to eye on the matter.
Tadas
Markus Prime, no there wasn't some "hypothetical girlfriend". Stupid person - some guy from my surrounding never seen as very bright, but had tough life in family and was involved in some gangs. Later on idk 'rediscovered' himself or something. Started new life, gitbto college, now even runs into politics. His speech and mindset changed completely since then when I spoke to him last time. Honesty - too many examples, its very 'nurture' thing, when you start to realise that your fake stance and status longing isn't getting any fruits. Neurosis - tougher case, also curable when people begin to find their path and start to accept themselves
Markus Prime
Tadas, I'm glad that the people in your life are turning themselves around. That's great. But the hypothetical girlfriend question was aimed at myself: if I weren't married, and if I were dating, how committed would I get to someone stupid, habitually dishonest, or neurotic? If I were wise, I'd bet against that relationship and I'd walk away. If only I were always wise...
Tadas
Markus Prime, yes, it's different when searching for partner. If she had all of that then its pointless to start relationship. If only some of it, then maybe. Especially if she wants to change. Of course if she doesn't want to change and it becomes one sided struggle to point her into right direction - its not worth it.
jabyl
Tadas, Markus Prime, it's an interesting debate - especially the classic "Nat vs. Nur" side of it. Just, it seems to me that you're considering this phantomatic "stupid, habitually dishonest or neurotic" person as a *universal agent* - behaving in the same way, not case by case, but person by person. That's the only thing which would irremediably turn me off in a girlfriend/partner - not differentiate herself/her behavior depending from the person. If she were habitually dishonest then, I wouldn't care that much being her reliable with me. For example - I'm not a universally kind person as well, I'm neutral at the beginning, later adapting to the person I have in front of me. Passing easily from an asshole to a sweety pie :) To conclude, for stupidity, unfortunately, there's no remedy - but neuroses are just personality traits in most of cases, so, again is a matter of combinations ;)
Beeler
jabyl, Markus Prime, Tadas, you may be curious to read about the nature vs nurture by looking into Life-Course criminology. The main discovery (maybe most recent) was that the genes that marked someone as aggressive or with a propensity to commit violent acts were equivalent to the propensity to commit a crime. Very fascinating read, and is changing the way crime and prison is looked at (and hopefully will do more). It's relevant here because the studies have been thorough in both the genetic and environmental situations including family and social situations of both sexes. The goal is to identify situations and people at or above a certain threshold at an earlier age and provide more appropriate interventions. But it address how the sexes are different as well. I believe one paper was by John Wright (it might have Roger if not John)
Nina One
Beeler, I would think epigenetics would come into it as well, no? It's becoming very clear that environments alter how genes are expressed.
Steph
I guess I think both Markus and Tadas are correct. Saying that people don't change their inherent personality is what I really meant. Sure you can quit smoking or stop lying but if you (apparently like my ex) think, "She will be this different person with me because she loves me," you are in for some disappointment. And so at the end he told me, "I really thought you would change." And I told him I wished he'd left me alone if he didn't like me the way I was. And I think more people should do that. Especially when someone is ~telling~ you exactly what kind of asshole they are - as I did.
Nina One
Steph, excellent points.
Beeler
Nina One, that's possible. I don't know how far they've included that research.
Nina One
Beeler, chronic stress is definitely one of the things that can change gene expression, sometimes permanently. So I would think it would be relevant.
Beeler
Nina One, after a quick Google search, Wright does in some his works.
Beeler
Steph, suppose someone recognizes a fault (or more) and actively works to change them?
Markus Prime
Beeler, any introspective person ought to be doing that. Even I manage it sometimes. But I'm still me. What I achieve is to reduce the effects of character flaws I've identified, rather than eliminating or reversing them. For example, I'm impatient, but I can learn to be more tolerant with certain people or in certain situations by seeing things from other people's point of view or understanding that some things just have to be borne for the greater good. Others may think of me as patient -- if they do, I've succeeded -- but, deep down, I know the impatience is still there.
Nina One
My husband has changed a lot since his 20s. He's much calmer and less reactive, and far more insightful about his motives. Mind you, the kids leaving home has helped. :-)
Markus Prime
Nina One, I hope I've undergone the same changes as I've aged. Hormone levels change with age and, with them, our characters. But I still have the same characteristics that make me me.
Nina One
Markus Prime, as do we all.
Steph
Beeler, I'm not talking about faults. I'm talking about who you are. Your actual self, the person YOU like and want to be. And that other person wants to change that. It's wrong. They need to go away and find someone they actually like. Not try to turn you into their ideal.
Beeler
Steph, correct. But you also said "people don't change their inherent personality" and that "someone is telling you exactly what kind of asshole they are". What if they, I'm assuming the type of asshole is a fault, acknowledge that part of themselves and actively work to correct it?
Steph
Well, I'm a self-professed asshole, and I like myself just fine ;) Basically what I was saying is, I am telling you that this is who I am. You, as my pursuer, need to believe me, and not want to change me. If you are headed into a relationship with someone and you are wanting to change him or her? You are the asshole. :)
Beeler
Steph, right. I get that. But you don't have any thoughts on the scenario I'm suggesting? We all have faults, what if you see one in your partner and they agree and actively work to change it? Or vice versa. Still a, "Sorry for your luck" situation?
Tadas
All of this ended up in debate about whether stupidity is unchangeable or not. So what is exactly "stupidity" for you?
Steph
No of course not. I said that above somewhere. Fix yourself. Tadas and Markus covered it; I agreed. But I am not kidding; when my ex husband left he said: I expected you to change. And he meant my personality! What the holy hell? What kind of stupid is that?
Steph
I should add that I was laughing as I typed that. 😄
Nina One
That's stupid all right. And egotistical, to think someone will change to suit you. I do think people can work on modifying their behaviour if they're aware of it, but their basic nature isn't going to change.
Steph
Well Nina, it was a challenge living with it, but I came away unscathed. Personality intact. And I try to show others how not to make that same mistake. We all want people to accept us the way we are, but everyone can use some improvement. I'm no exception.
Beeler
Steph, you're right that's pretty silly. I think what's missing in my question maybe is that in that scenario (though I'd rather keep it hypothetical), say he had pointed out something that was damaging to the relationship. Maybe an aspect of your personality, that you also had found frustrating and had been trying to correct. As a for instance, maybe you complain about rain everytime it happens and other things too- brings everyone around you down. You're not sure why you do it, but you just can't help but complain. But you also recognize it as putting stress on your relationships. You see it as a fault, your partner sees it as a fault. By yourself you have been powerless to shift it, yet you admit to having wanted to change.
Beeler
By acknowledging that and accepting the fault for a time, and still expecting a change, is the expectant party still an "asshole"?
Steph
I don't know, because I don't have a lot of expectations of people. If you're complaining and it bothers me, I'll tune you out. If you cook something I hate I'll make a PBJ. If you don't do your part around the house; I'll stack the dirty dishes on your pillow. Otherwise, I'm really easy to live with. If you say you're going to do something, I expect you to do it. If not? I really don't care. Don't promise me anything, I'd rather not be disappointed. I just don't get why people can't accept their partner's foibles. Everyone has them. If you let them eat away at you, you're going to feel resentment. If you look at them as endearing qualities (as difficult as that may be, it is possible) and put a positive spin on them, you yourself will be happier.
Tadas
Steph, sometimes you just can't accept them. But if you love someone for lots of other things, and there are few ones that still are annoying as hell and you tell constantly your partner about them, but nothing changes. In that case who is egoist then? I disagree that "you have to accept me 100% because i don't care nor i will improve".
Steph
Tadas, I don't agree with that either. But you can nitpick someone to death. When you stop and think about it, how important is most of that? Oh, you leave the cap off the toothpaste. Balance that with you make the best damn lasagna in the world. Most of the things we pick on each other about are small. If you're gambling away money? Yeah, let's get some help with that. If you're kicking the dog? That's a problem. Choose your battles. And when you do have a "battle" it doesn't need to belittle or hurt. Because you're supposed to love that person, yeah? And so treat them with the same kindness you would a stranger.
Markus Prime
Tadas, to answer your question a few comments up: stupidity is failure to understand things that other people can understand. Intelligence is multidimensional: there will be things that you understand that I'd struggle with, and vice versa. One of us might have a gift for numbers and abstract thought, one for languages, one for emotional cues, one for music or fine art, and so on. But, still, some people tend to be quicker on the uptake than others, and still others never seem to grasp things at all.
Cat Woman
I think that stupidity is the inability to learn something new, a continued adherence to beliefs of behaviors regardless of proof to do or believe otherwise, an inability to grasp new information. I had a card a while ago about how often people call other people stupid. I seem to have been the only person who carried my definition of stupid.
Cat Woman
Sorry to interrupt. That statement just caught my eye.
Markus Prime
Cat Woman, I think perhaps the second part of your definition (continued adherence...) is more about stubbornness and confirmation bias than stupidity, no? There's nothing clever about behaving like that, but even intelligent people do it.
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Cis white Goat
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Cis white Goat
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Cis white Goat
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Cis white Goat
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Cis white Goat
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That means "dick" in Russian.
Sipilip
So glad I don't have to argue with anyone.
ikcikoR
I'm glad that I had rest of my yesterday popcorn with me
Righteous Pie Loving Joshua
Wow 4 comments that have said good and only that. Wow I'm amazed by their contribute to this card.
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Cis white Goat
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No own cards posted, so probably sol feeders trying to look active
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Righteous Pie Loving Joshua
Cis white Goat, Yeah I know haha. I would like to see bots atleast put more effort into comments. I was making fun of them.
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Anhsang
Như thế nào để dc nhiều sol
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