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Stop calling out logical fallacies.

Or at least, stop just calling something a logical fallacy without explaining why it's a bad argument. It's not helpful.

Instead, explain why that specific argument is bad. Is it a straw man argument? Then explain why that's a misinterpretation of the original argument, and explain the correct version. Is it an appeal to authority? Then explain why that authority is wrong, or may not necessarily be right.

Calling an argument a logical fallacy is, effectively, no better than just calling them wrong.

You may be technically right, but you're not convincing anyone.

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There's an absolutely marvelous new user here, Scott Cunningham, I believe he posted a couple of cards about fallacies
Philo 0316Author
I'll look out for him!
Philo 0316Author
What does that achieve?
DELETED USER
Philo 0316, explains why the middle ground is a fallacy and then gives an example of the fallacy
Philo 0316Author
JDaniel Richer, isn't it more useful to explain why it's a bad logical reasoning though? Using that vaccine example from the link, you could just explain that the "middle ground" argument is actually a separate argument from the two other arguments, and that it needs its own supporting arguments. The thing is that an argument can still have the correct conclusion even if it uses a fallacious reasoning. Calling out fallacy is easy, but it's not very helpful.
DELETED USER
Philo 0316, you could do that but link posting and simply naming the fallacy is more convenient.
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Philo 0316, it helps me. It forces me or the person to basically think in reverse as to why it's a fallacy thus helping me or them to solidify their knowledge of logical fallacies.
DELETED USER
Philo 0316, often times the wrong fallacy is declared and with that knowledge of the fallacy, you can explain why it's not a fallacy or why it's not *that* fallacy.
Philo 0316Author
JDaniel Richer, I definitely agree it's convenient. I'm asking people to go out of their way to help others who don't understand them incorrectly.
DELETED USER
Philo 0316, seems like a waste of time and very bad ROI
Philo 0316Author
JDaniel Richer, what is ROI?
DELETED USER
Philo 0316, return on investment. Basically what you put in is way more than you will likely get out but that's basically what debating politics on the internet is, most of the time.
Philo 0316Author
JDaniel Richer, that sounds like a reasonable assumption. But what about the value other people will get from your explanation? When you publicly post something, it's not just you or the person you're talking to that benefits.
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Philo 0316, very true but most people have already made up their minds or just don't see it in the viewpoint that you are trying to portrait. Sure internet slacktivism is cool but so is focusing on yourself and trying to improve your life/self.
Philo 0316Author
JDaniel Richer, you don't have to completely convert them from one side to the other. People change their minds more when the people they're talking to are friendly. I've changed my mind from reading other people's comments myself.
flack
Absolutely agree. I have seen logical fallacies used in completely fallacious ways.
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