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TheOneAndOnlyGhost
If there was evidence that a god existed of any religion. Then I would believe in that deity. And I mean straight visual evidence.
BenBen
There are many facts that support faith in a god. One is the fact that there is order to the universe. Another is the fact that things exist in the first place.
NotDarkYet 👁
In what way is "order" in itself a proof that something outside that "order" is a prerequisite for the "order" to be created and maintained.
Obtiks
NotDarkYet 👁, Entropy.
BenBen
NotDarkYet 👁, Scientific laws are an example of order. They coordinate extremely well with each other. As a result there are brilliant stars, supernovas, planets, etc. Couldn't that suggest a creator of those laws?
Obtiks
NotDarkYet 👁, cpt symmetry
Nick KontogourisAuthor
In the universe there's everything but order!
Obtiks
Nick Kontogouris, there really is order. When we study entropy, Big Bang, CPT symmetry. There is great amount of order.
NotDarkYet 👁
BenBen, You can suggest anything. I was asking for proof.
BenBen
NotDarkYet 👁, It's evidence. And I'm not talking about what happens in the universe. What happens in the universe is chaotic. I'm talking about the structures that make up the universe. Stars, black holes, asteroids, and planets wouldn't exist if not for scientific properties like mass, force, and acceleration. You think that those scientific properties just happened to coordinate well together to allow for our universe. That sounds like a leap of faith to me.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Obtiks, can you suggest something in universe stayed intact? Even planets trajectory are how they are now from pure luck.
Obtiks
Nick Kontogouris, pure luck? seriously. Never mind that. Some of the laws we have like CPT symmetry and Entropy show that the universe should have equal antimatter and matter but that is not the case. We have more matter. And entropy says everything should fall into disorder, but we constantly have order and symmetry. Look the solar system. We have so many systems, but one is habitable.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Obtiks, habitable by our standards. Right?
Obtiks
Nick Kontogouris, ummm..... quick question, are you a science/space enthusiast?
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Obtiks, big fat no
Obtiks
Nick Kontogouris, How much do you know about life and its conditions?
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Obtiks, are we playing 10 questions game or you getting somewhere?
Obtiks
Nick Kontogouris, just that we have most kinds of atmosphere, and have yet to see life habitable elsewhere.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Obtiks, from our perspective with our limited knowledge when comes to universe. If we were looking for a planet to move there all the deep sea life then things will be changed on what we're looking for. It's all matter of perspective.
Obtiks
Nick Kontogouris, very very true. I apologize for the presumtion. It just that with this very limited knowledge, we claim with certsinity that God doesn't exist. And life is a Chance. It seems wierd.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Obtiks, no worries, as an Atheist i don't believe in God for life existing as we know it that doesn't means i don't believe at some kind higher power. Now if im wrong and taken as granted that im not a tree when my knowledge change i will too, just for now all traditional religions look silly to my eyes.
Obtiks
Nick Kontogouris, 👍🏼 So Should I. We should question everything. 👍🏼
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Obtiks, literally question everything yes, including ourselves.
Obtiks
Nick Kontogouris, 👍🏼
Forsaken account
Why is an atheist the administrator to a religious area?
TheOneAndOnlyGhost
Just because you're an atheist doesn't mean you can't properly talk about religion.
Forsaken account
I understand that, however he seems to be spamming cards against it. The impression I get is not that of a debate, but that of suppression
TheOneAndOnlyGhost
General Matt, true.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
General Matt, i don't spam anything sorry you see it like that
Forsaken account
I find these to be as common as the Islam spam, not as much, but I couldn't go 20 cards without hitting one. It gets stale
Mr. Wayne
What you have is a belief. You believe that my belief is a fiction, and I'll believe it's true. Unless you can give me the proof that he doesn't exist. I don't know where you got the authority to tell me what my belief is and isn't.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Really? You want to start a conversation based on that? First of all the burden of proof is for someone who says that something is real. Not the other way around!
Mr. Wayne
Nick Kontogouris, I never said anything, except in response to *you* saying something wasn't real. I never made any other claims. So no, the burden of proof doesn't lie with me. I'm not the one making claims about God. Since you're making a claim about it being a fiction, the burden of proof lies with you.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Mr. Wayne, everything i posted was mainly from Bible, you call bible a book full of lies?
Mr. Wayne
Nick Kontogouris, I never claimed anything about any belief. I'm just pointing out that you, just like the Christians or Muslims or whatever, hold a belief, which is that God isn't real. Since you are the one who is the owner of this post and the initiator, it's your responsibility to provide the evidence for your claim of their beliefs being a fiction. I never said I was a Christian, Muslim, or even an Atheist. I'm just here to tell you that just like them, your belief of God's nonexistence is just a belief.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Mr. Wayne, fall logic, im talking about what bible say, it's a biblical discussion, so if Bible says something funny we're not looking to prove it wrong at first but why and how they think its right. And then if fails to give enough satisfying explanations then yes we mocking it.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
You can believe in anything you want but when you are trying to enforce it to society then im going to question every bit of it. The rest of your question is idiotic so i don't spend time answered.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Mr. Wayne, bible claiming God's existence came before me.
Mr. Wayne
Nick Kontogouris, I never said I was enforcing anything. I only said your belief is just another belief. How about you read next time. I never had a quarrel with you. It's just that your post is insinuating that your belief is a fact, which it's not. It's just a belief. That's all.
Nick KontogourisAuthor
Mr. Wayne, in other words you talk much but you never say anything! Nice. As for my beliefs as you call them its enough to prove the Bible wrong (which isn't that hard) and not mine right (which may or may not be) .
Mr. Wayne
Nick Kontogouris, If you had of read my comment correctly the first time, I wouldn't have had to respond so much.
Obtiks
you believe that?
CΔLΨPSΩ
^ why I'm agnostic
God.
This is a solid point 🤔
God.
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